Legislature(2003 - 2004)

04/27/2004 03:11 PM House HES

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HB  72-BOARD OF REGENTS QUALIFICATIONS                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1379                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 72,  "An Act relating  to the  qualifications and                                                               
appointment of members of the  Board of Regents of the University                                                               
of Alaska; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1389                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DAVID   GUTTENBERG,  Alaska   State  Legislature,                                                               
sponsor of HB 72, presented  the bill and answered questions from                                                               
the committee.  He explained that  at the end of the 2002 session                                                               
a situation occurred in joint  session where a student regent did                                                               
not  get confirmed.   As  a  result of  that university  students                                                               
across the  state wanted to come  up with a fix  that presented a                                                               
solution to that problem.  There  has been a lot discussion about                                                               
what that  would be  and suggestions  ranged from  adding another                                                               
student  regent  to  possibly  allowing the  Governor  to  add  a                                                               
student   regent   without    going   through   the   legislative                                                               
confirmation process.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GUTTENBERG  said  that   the  consensus  of  that                                                               
discussion is before the members now  in HB 72.  This bill allows                                                               
for a second  student regent, who serves in  a non-voting student                                                               
regent capacity  for one  year and  then moves  up to  the voting                                                               
student regent position the next  year.  The student regent would                                                               
serve a two-year term with  alternating appointments.  He said he                                                               
believes it is  important to always have a student  regent on the                                                               
board.    This also  serves  as  an educational  opportunity  for                                                               
another student, he added.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GUTTENBERG explained  that  students are  elected                                                               
from the  student body and  a list of  names from each  campus is                                                               
submitted to  the governor  for appointment.   He  commented that                                                               
the issue on  the even number of members on  the board of regents                                                               
does not  seem to be  a problem because of  the way the  board of                                                               
regents'  works.    It  works through  a  committee  process  and                                                               
divisive issues do  not come before the full board  until all the                                                               
problems are worked out.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1542                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON asked  if she understands correctly  that the second                                                               
student regent would serve by  watching and learning and not have                                                               
a vote.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GUTTENBERG replied that  the second student regent                                                               
would not  be able to vote  on official business at  a full board                                                               
of regents meeting.  However,  the second student regent could be                                                               
participate in other  meetings.  He explained that  when an issue                                                               
comes before  the regents it is  assigned to a working  group who                                                               
works through the process.   The second student regent could work                                                               
on an issue; however, at a  full regent meeting the student could                                                               
speak, but not vote.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 1579                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON commented  that the state school board  has the same                                                               
arrangement with  two student representatives.   She  shared that                                                               
when she  asked them  how it  was working  out the  students were                                                               
very happy with it.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON referred  to page  3, lines  3 through  5,                                                               
where it says:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
       The term "campus" used in this subsection means a                                                                        
      portion of the University of Alaska designated as a                                                                       
     "campus" by the Board of Regents.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON asked  whether  there is  language in  the                                                               
bill that  makes the  distinction that  the student  regents will                                                               
come from different campuses.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GUTTENBERG responded that  it is not his intention                                                               
to  have two  people from  the  same campus.   He  added that  he                                                               
believes  there  would  be  enough   political  pressure  on  the                                                               
governor  to  ensure  that  the two  student  regents  come  from                                                               
different campuses.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON pointed  to page  2, lines  25 through  27                                                               
which reads as follows:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
       The list must [SHALL] consist of the names of two                                                                    
     students from each campus of the University of Alaska                                                                      
     after an election is held at each campus.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  asked  Representative  Guttenberg  if  he                                                               
intended  for that  language to  specify that  one nominee  would                                                               
come from each campus.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GUTTENBERG  replied yes.   The possibility  of the                                                               
governor appointing  two regents  from the  same campus  would be                                                               
the governor's political  decision.  He said he  hopes that would                                                               
not happen.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON commented that it is not specified.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GUTTENBERG agreed it is not specified.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 1693                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL asked if  the student regent positions are                                                               
staggered.   He said it appears  that the terms could  both begin                                                               
at the same time.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GUTTENBERG replied  that it  is his  intention to                                                               
have the terms staggered.  It  would not be practical to have the                                                               
terms start at the  same time.  The point is  to have one student                                                               
regent that  watches for a  year and  moves up into  the [voting]                                                               
regent position when a regent is appointed behind him/her.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL commented  that  he is  looking for  that                                                               
clarification   in  the   language.      He  questioned   whether                                                               
Representative  Guttenberg  would  want  to  amend  the  bill  to                                                               
specify that.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GUTTENBERG  responded that  he has  discussed that                                                               
possibility.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL  noted that the qualifications  refer to a                                                               
regent  having  a  graduate  or  undergraduate  degree  from  the                                                               
University of Alaska on page 2, lines  5 and 6.  He asked if that                                                               
is a current requirement or is it new language.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GUTTENBERG  explained that while this  is a change                                                               
in the language,  it is really directed at the  board of regents,                                                               
not student regents.  Currently  there is no requirement that any                                                               
member of  the board of regents  be a graduate of  the University                                                               
of Alaska.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL  commented that  it  sounds  like a  good                                                               
idea.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  asked for Representative Guttenberg  to clarify how                                                               
the student regent is appointed.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GUTTENBERG  explained   that  the   governor  is                                                               
presented with a  list of two students from each  campus and from                                                               
that  list  the governor  selects  one  to  be  on the  board  of                                                               
regents.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON commented  that the bill does say that  the "term of                                                               
office  begin June  1 of  the year  in which  the appointment  is                                                               
made."  She asked how the student regents' terms are designated.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1833                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GUTTENBERG commented  that the university believed                                                               
the  terms of  the  regents  could be  accomplished  by having  a                                                               
staggered term.   When meeting with the regents he  was told that                                                               
they do not believe it is  their role to tell the legislature how                                                               
they will be governed.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON moved conceptual Amendment 1 as follows:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     On Page 2, Line 28, after "Governor."                                                                                      
      Insert "The Governor shall appoint one student from                                                                       
        each of two different campuses having staggered                                                                         
     terms."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  he  said   he  believes  this  conceptual                                                               
amendment would take care of both problems.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, Conceptual Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL asked Representative  Guttenberg if any of                                                               
the regents have express an objection to the bill.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GUTTENBERG commented that  the two regents that he                                                               
spoke to were Representatives Fate  and Ogg.  Representative Ogg,                                                               
when speaking  only for  himself, and  not as  a regent,  said he                                                               
believes  the  current  arrangement  is   fine  the  way  it  is.                                                               
Representative Guttenberg  told the  members that  he did  have a                                                               
conversation with Chip  Wagoner who was involved  in the creation                                                               
of  a student  regent  position.   He  had  some opposition,  but                                                               
decided that if  the students wanted another regent  he would not                                                               
stand in their way.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL  said  he  believes  having  one  student                                                               
regent  as a  non-voting member  is  a good  idea.   He told  the                                                               
members he supports the bill.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1975                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON moved to  report CSHB 72(EDU), 23-LS0112\Q,                                                               
as amended, out of committee  with individual recommendations and                                                               
the accompanying  fiscal notes.   There being no  objection, CSHB
72(HES)  was reported  out  of the  House  Health, Education  and                                                               
Social Services Standing Committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                

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